Beyond Sunday
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Beyond Sunday
What Do You Do When Your Plans Are Interrupted by Pain?
Peter, Kate, and Kevin close out the Pardon This Interruption series with a conversation on what it means to pour out costly love in the middle of pain and uncertainty. Looking at Mary’s anointing of Jesus, Roosevelt’s bullet-slowed speech, and scripture as a shield for the heart, they reflect on how worship, integrity, and hope can carry us through suffering and leave a fragrance that lasts beyond the moment.
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Welcome to Beyond Sunday. I am your host, Dina Newsome. Just kidding. It's Peter Bay. And Dina's gone somewhere. Do you know where she is?
SPEAKER_00:Probably a Disney Park.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, a Disney Park sounds right for Dina.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Top Disney movie. Go.
SPEAKER_02:Ooh. The top Disney movie?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, name one Disney movie.
SPEAKER_02:I think it has to be The Lion King.
SPEAKER_01:So good. I know. Yeah, that's a hard one to compete against. Although a Dark Horse for me is Hunchback of Notre Dame. There's that creepy song where he's like, Hell's fire. Desire. This is all gonna get cut. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Don't edit it anymore. It's all going in.
SPEAKER_01:This is going in. Kate, Disney movie.
SPEAKER_00:Um, well, my students used to have to read. Now I'm not gonna be able to think of the true title. The Headless Hortzman.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh. There's a movie about Ichabod Crane?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Well, welcome to Beyond Sunday. We're gonna dive into the message. Uh, Pastor Seth Flick had his last week in the pardon, this interruption. But before we get into that content, a couple of questions for you. Today is National Podcast Day. Thanks for listening to this podcast and National Podcast Day or whenever you're catching it.
SPEAKER_02:Is it national or international podcast?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's international.
SPEAKER_02:It might as well be, honestly. Let's go. We run the we run the whole world at this point.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's no fact checkers for this. So sweet. Name a podcast that you've been enjoying lately.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it is baseball season for anywhere from one more day to one more month. So I've been listening to a Cubs podcast called Lockdown Cubs a whole lot.
SPEAKER_01:And uh tell us about your how are you feeling right now with your Cubs?
SPEAKER_02:We are down zero to one as we are speaking right now. Oh boy, you're gonna be so distracted. I know. I know. No, I'm all in. I can baseball is a great sport that you can socialize while you watch it. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because they play 465 games. Yeah, exactly. That's the number. It's ridiculous. Kate, uh top podcast from you.
SPEAKER_00:Um I alternate between um different pre-trayers across the country that I like to listen to and true crime.
SPEAKER_01:Nice. Yeah, I during the season I do have a fantasy football podcast that I get into. Um some people are gonna love this, some people are gonna hate it. I I don't mind, depending on the um the guest, I'll I'll catch Joe Rogan. I think he's a really great question asker, and he brings on all kinds of crazy people. So it's so uh I don't mind that, but I do a lot of Audible. So I'm finding myself shifting more over to Audible than podcasts.
SPEAKER_02:Love listening to books.
SPEAKER_01:Do you?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's a good that's a good one. I've listened through the whole uh Narnia series a couple of times, so that's just just for fun without my kids.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I got to like book five of that one and I totally lost momentum. So I'm just waiting to feel the itch and then I'll get back in. Yeah. Very good. All right, now Pastor Seth Flake started the message talking about Teddy Roosevelt and uh how there's an attempted assassination. He was shot, but he didn't die somehow. We'll get to that later. And he got up and he was like, said something like, the speech is still gonna happen. Takes more than that to put down a bull moose. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, he did. Such a wild way to start a speech. Um, but it made me wonder presidents, uh, some of your favorite presidents of all time, and why? Who do you got? Or just name one, that's fine, or several.
SPEAKER_02:So I did uh uh a report in like middle school on Thomas Jefferson and learned so much about him, especially the fact that he's the one who who uh signed the the purchase or whatever to get Louisiana Purchase. Yeah, Louisiana Purchase to get this land. And so for whatever reason, ever since then, like, well, that's my guy, obviously. So I'm a TJ guy. I'm a TJ guy. Yeah. How could you not be?
SPEAKER_00:I feel like I should break out in song from Hamilton.
SPEAKER_01:I've never seen Hamilton. Is Hamilton about TJ?
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_01:I love that our worship director hasn't seen it. I haven't seen it either.
SPEAKER_00:What is a music media?
SPEAKER_01:I started it and it was so boring.
unknown:What?
SPEAKER_01:It was miserable.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, just put on the music while you're driving. You need to know the music first and then watch.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. We're so busy listening to books. I I have heard Peter Clemps rendition about Martin Luther from the same songs a couple times. Doesn't count. Well, he's amazing.
SPEAKER_02:So I wouldn't disagree with that, but there's such a small population of people who listen to this podcast that know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. You can catch it next year at Concordia's Oktoberfest one year from now.
SPEAKER_00:The Schnitzels also perform that night, also.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, the Pokeband, the Schnitzels. So did you so who's your president?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I wanted to go last because I wanted to talk more about Teddy Roosevelt. So you go.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I'll go then. Um yeah, this is actually a tough one for me. Uh I I would not say I'm a much of a historian, um, but I mean, I think it was cool that Reagan was an actor who became a president, so that's pretty cool. A lot of people still love him, talk about him, his economics. Um there's like some in one of my kids' books, there's one of the presidents who was like super overweight, and people call him lazy all the time. I thought, like, good for him. Like, way to overachieve. So I could really connect with that guy. And uh, so but I'd say my number one favorite uh for no good reason. Let's go. Man, when when Bush, which Bush avoided the shoe?
SPEAKER_02:That was George W. Yeah, yeah. He had the two shoes thrown at him.
SPEAKER_01:The double both the double shoe duck. I remember that, and then just kept doing his job. He can have my vote. What do you got, Kate?
SPEAKER_00:So I taught fifth grade many years, which is U.S. history in fifth grade. You learn U.S. history for the first time. And we did uh quite a bit of a study on Theodore Roosevelt. Oh, because he is the maybe one of the main presidents who set up our national park system.
unknown:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:And I don't know if you're familiar with, I always want to say David Muir, but it's John Muir. John Muir.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. We had a John Muir park in Green Bay growing up.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because he was actually born in Scotland and then moved to Wisconsin and went to school in Madison. But anyway, he loved the outdoors. He was a conservationist, he was an environmentalist, and he convinced Teddy Roosevelt to go on a three-day campaign with him to Yosemite, which he loved. And um, so Teddy Roosevelt showed up with his entourage, and um John Muir was like, nope, excuse me, the two of us, we're roughing it. And they like camped in tents and there was a snowstorm, but he realized why John Muir like loved Yosemite and thought it was like an outdoor cathedral.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and so he signed into Congress, like protection of the National Parks land.
SPEAKER_01:So Teddy did all this, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:What probably mostly because of John Muir.
SPEAKER_01:John Muir, what a guy. Yeah. Nice.
SPEAKER_02:Who was the president that only made it like a month? Was that Taft or something?
SPEAKER_01:Taft I I I wanted to say Taft was the big guy.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, maybe Taft was the big guy. There was there was one president who was only president for like a month and then he died. Man, that's tough. I know, but he clearly didn't do anything wrong. Yeah. Might have been the most successful president of all time, if you think about it.
SPEAKER_01:I mean you checking it, you're looking it up. I feel like you could also think about the other way.
SPEAKER_02:You could. He did nothing.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, the least successful. Who is it? What do we got?
SPEAKER_00:William Henry Harrison. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's who it was.
SPEAKER_00:32 days.
SPEAKER_02:Well done. Well done, Harrison.
SPEAKER_00:I could handle it. And never mind, I couldn't. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway. So um let's get this kicked off with uh really what stood out to you from the message on Sunday.
SPEAKER_02:So I took uh a quick note. Let me see. There was a quote and it a quote from from Seth. Um I don't know if he was quoting somebody else or where this came from, but it was a it was a really good little nugget for me that he said pain is not an excuse for a detour, but the highway to your destination. And I really appreciated that. Um, you know, that the the takeaway for this for this week um was sometimes you just gotta play hurt. And so to be able to to kind of have these things to cling on to and also to see pain not as something to um run away from or in this case an excuse for a detour, um, but instead something to work through and to use as as the road to the next thing. Um yeah, that stuck out to me. That was something I specifically stopped and wrote down because I was like, that's a that's a good note. I think I needed that for this week.
SPEAKER_00:Agree. Um just the breaking of the alabaster jar is very dynamic and impressive. And I would hope that I would have a similar response coming face to face with Jesus, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, that was a cool thing. I mean, the whole theme for the message was what do you do when your life is interrupted by pain? Uh, what do you do when your pain um or when your plans are interrupted by fear? And uh Pastor Seth got into that Bible event of Mary, the sister of Lazarus, and that incredibly expensive jar of perfume. Um, but yeah, that one of the things that Pastor Seth did was he showed a picture of that jar. It didn't have a lid, it didn't have a cork. It's not like you could use part of it and save the rest. You broke it and it was one-time use. Right. Holy smokes. So that yeah, that was that was a cool hip bit of historical knowledge picked up there. Um yeah, I I really appreciated that thought of like Jesus knew the pain was coming and he didn't avoid it, and he knew he must withstand it for you and for me. Um and because of that, I think my tendency is to avoid pain. If I'm if I'm sore, I take an ibuprofen. If I'm um if something's hard, I try to find an easier way to do it. And uh, but there are areas in life where it's just part of life. And the quote that you gave, Kevin, I think that is a really beautiful quote because it's like in order to get where you need to go, oftentimes if it's worth it, you're gonna go through some pain to get there. Uh rather than like, it's not a detour. No, this is right on the path. So yeah, that's good stuff. So Jesus knew that his pain uh was coming and it would be brutal, yet he sustained it for us. How does this help you with the pain that you face?
SPEAKER_00:I think the older you get, the more you're not surprised by when the pain shows up.
SPEAKER_01:What do you mean by that?
SPEAKER_00:Well, you're just more likely I don't know. I feel like I'm at the age where you like sometimes you can actually get injured in your sleep.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah. Yeah, you wake up and your hip hurts.
SPEAKER_00:That's ridiculous. Like, I don't know. Like, and it's like, okay, this is just gonna be part of the day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it doesn't go away either.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:So Kevin, are you that old yet?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. I wake up, I wake up and if I if my back was anything other than perfectly straight, I am sore for several hours. My neck is all whack and all that. So yes, I I experienced that too, even in my 30s.
SPEAKER_00:You got a long way to go.
SPEAKER_02:Um yeah, I think uh for me, the experience of pain in light of the gospel. Um, number one, it always gives me hope. And I think that's the thing that really like sticks out to me is even in my pain, I can have hope. Even when things are difficult, even when things are challenging, even when things go the opposite way than I than I would hope for. Um I can always have hope and I can always have trust in a plan that's greater than mine. And that's been, you know, uh I can't imagine living a life that you don't have that. I've, you know, I've followed Jesus since I was a teenager. So for me, it's like even before that, but like really like intentionally since I was a teenager. And my whole like life, I've been able to lean into that. And there's things in my life that I'm like, how would I have ever gone through that without hope in Christ and without the gospel? And I cannot even fathom that.
SPEAKER_01:Would either of you be willing to give a time when you went through pain and how God sustained you?
SPEAKER_02:Well, for me, I mean, there was uh we shared my story of healing here at King of Kings um a while back. Um I was diagnosed with a neurological disorder called myasthenia gravis, which is uh the quick, easy way to explain it is my brain tries to transmit a signal to my body, and my body, the signal doesn't get to where it needs to go. So my fingers wouldn't wouldn't grab, um, my my mouth wouldn't smile, um, my legs would give out, all those kinds of things. And I there were definitely moments of uncertainty and there was moments of fear, like you can't sing, um, you can't uh play guitar, you can't, like I couldn't do any of the things that I do for a living now, which is crazy. Um but I was I was brought to a point of saying, okay, well, if that's God's perfect plan for my life, then I'm going to lean into that and trust him because his plan is better than mine. And, you know, um, I'm extremely grateful that I've was on the other side of that with healing, able to do those things again in remission from that. Um, but like, you know, you go up and you you have the ups and downs of that, right? Like that pain was there and that like frustration and suffering and um some really deep soul-level uh uh trauma, probably. Um, but also going through the the stages of grief and and finding that place of acceptance. Um that was really important for me to be able to say, well, this could be what it is. And several months went by of, well, this is my life. And we were able to manage it with medication and stuff like that, that I could still do some things, but it wasn't the same as before. And now on the other side of that, um any suffering I have is in light of that experience. And so I can always say anything it can can go wrong. Um, but I've already seen what this looks like and I've already accepted that God's plan is better than mine. And so I can I can experience that that too and and trust him in that. And it sounds um, it sounds crazy, and it also is almost like, well, yeah, but you came out on the other end of it. But I also was willing to accept that if I wouldn't have. So um, yeah, I think just be able to trust in the Lord, knowing that his plan is good and uh that he will carry me through it, maybe not to the other side on this side of eternity, but he'll carry me no matter what. And I I needed that during that time of my life.
SPEAKER_01:You mentioned early in that that if it was God's perfect plan for you to have that, um for the listener who says, Why would God plan for me to experience pain and loss? Is that what you meant, or what would you say to that?
SPEAKER_02:So there's a really like deep theological concept um wrapped up into that. Does God actually cause pain in our lives? Um and without I I feel like that's that's for a different podcast episode if someone wanted to really get the deep dive on that. But I would go as far as to say, um, I don't know if God causes pain, but God allows us to go through any circumstance. His promise is that he'll be there with us no matter what. And so um what that can mean is he actually isn't allowing us to go through pain other than the fact that it's for our benefit. Or you could make the other case that um that pain like is so uh uh uh death loses its sting, right, with the gospel. Well, pain also like suffering loses its its harshness when you have hope on the other side of it. So yeah, I mean, uh I feel like that's such a that's such a tightrope to walk in a conversation, uh, depending on who's asking it. And I would want to like have a personal conversation with that. For me in my story, um, I don't know if God caused it, but I can certainly like affirm the fact that he he walked, he carried me through it. And um, yeah, that was life-changing. Um, and it comes up with my family all the time, you know. Like that's a thing that that my mom or my wife, or um, my kids aren't really around yet, but my w my mom or my wife will bring it up. Like, well, what if that comes back again? And I go, Yeah, well, I I trust God's good. And that's that's the end of it for me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Kate, you want to tell a pain story? People love telling pain stories.
SPEAKER_00:Um, well, I did. Most people know I've been through treatment for breast cancer in 2017, and I was teaching third grade that year, and so I had to make the decision. You know, most employers are good. They're like, how do you want to deal with this? And um, I decided to keep teaching while I was getting treatment, mostly because my daughter was also in third grade that year. And she was not in my class, but she was in the classroom next door. So I know it would be very different, difficult for her to go to school every day without me next door. So basically, I just missed the days where I had chemotherapy treatment at the hospital. And so I felt crummy for about six months while that was going on. And my coworkers were wonderful. My principal did my recess duties during the cold winter months, which was a gift. And um, I don't that group of third graders, they I I would, I don't know what they took away. I still taught the curriculum, but it was not to 100%. But they watched, you know, they watched their teacher lose her hair, you know, and feel crummy. And it was funny. Some days I'd wear a wig and you know, there'd always be one student like, did that grow back last night? You know, because it's just that age where you're just not sure. Um but again, like Kevin said, I felt like the Lord was with me through the whole time. Um He was a constant source of refuge when I felt fear. Um and he saw me through and allowed me to be healed, which I'm thankful for.
SPEAKER_01:So we mentioned earlier that uh part of the the message was telling the Bible event about Mary, the sister of Lazarus. Um Lazarus the leper. Who was he a leper at this time or had he been healed?
SPEAKER_00:I would guess he'd been healed if Jesus was at his house.
SPEAKER_01:Right, probably.
SPEAKER_00:Lazarus the leper.
SPEAKER_01:Like that was his nickname. What a terrible nickname. Right. He never escaped that one. Yeah. What up, Lip?
unknown:Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01:That's terrible, right? So he's so Mary, the sister of Lazarus the Leper, whom Jesus had healed or was about to heal. Um, you guys can fact check that at home and let us know. Uh she gave this incredible, fragrant offering. What stood out to you about that Bible event?
SPEAKER_00:I thought it was pretty amazing. Just the two the contrast of the outer and the inner. So the religious leaders were looking for a way to capture and kill Jesus because they didn't want to deal with an uprising while Mary was taking such a lavish gift to pour out on him. And that's I don't know if there's a bigger contrast. Um, but I never thought about how he probably could smell that fragrance while he was on the cross. Like that was so powerful to me. And and I don't think he could have smelled that fragrance without thinking about her faith that c that prompted her to do that. And I thought, wow, that's impressive.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I don't uh remember exactly how Seth said it, um, but he he talked about the word that was used for um the use of of the the oil. Um and he broke it down and I I forget exactly the word he used, but I've I've I know I've also read it in certain translations that uses the word wasted, that it was wasted on him. And I thought that's such an interesting uh word because it's absolutely not wasted when it's used for worship. It's not wasted when it it's its whole purpose is for anointing. Um but it was absolutely completely used up. You can't you can't reuse it. It's that's done. That's that's all of it. And um as a worship leader and as a song leader and um as a musician, for me, like whenever you sing a song, you can't reuse that moment of singing. Like you can reuse the song, you can sing the song again, obviously, but you can only sing it that one time. That one time. That's this moment. You can't get this moment back. And it's it's similar, I feel like, in that way, where I go, okay, this is, you know, Sunday morning at uh 11.08. We're singing this song. I'm never gonna be back to that Sunday morning at 11.08, singing this exact song with all of my life experiences and this group of people in this start arrangement ever again. It's all right here and right now. And so this moment is absolutely holy and special and set apart and um for for this time. And so the parallel for me on that um is really, really meaningful and and I I have loved the story for a long time. Um, it just sticks out a lot to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, those are beautiful takeaways that she poured out entirely that incredibly expensive, was it a year's wages? Goodness. And then just moments later, Christ would pour out entirely his blood for us, shed perfectly. Like his last words on the cross, that to telestai, paid in full. Um, and then hearkening back to that incredibly expensive payment that she gave um to to give Jesus that gift. There's there's so many beautiful ties in that Bible event. Um, but I I really appreciated the the way that Seth, Pastor Seth, talked about that and raised it up. And like you said, that Jesus was stripped of everything. But on the cross, he still bore the smell from that incredible gift. So Teddy Roosevelt, so he's shot on the way up to giving a speech. He still gives a speech, says something about being a bull moose. And uh the way Seth said it was Teddy was saved by a collection of words covering his heart. How does this thought impact you?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I I love the way that Seth said that. That was very um very poetic. Um and for us to do the same thing with the word of God, um, that was you know what Seth was getting at is it reminds me of um I forget if if if uh uh where this is at, but it's just hiding the word of God in your heart. Um you know that's such a critical piece of following Jesus is being able to then like be reminded in the moment of something, you know, a proverb or a psalm or a statement from Jesus or um a story or whatever, whatever it might be, being able to have that tucked away. I I just I find a lot of peace being able to be easily reminded of the truths of God's word. And umce again, I think that, you know, to bring that full circle for me and my story is being able to lean on the truth that God is good no matter what. It actually reminds me of um Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego when they're about to be thrown into the furnace. And the uh the the last things that they that the last thing that they they say to the king is, we believe that our God's going to deliver us, but even if he doesn't, he's still good. And um that story has rung true for me. It I'm reminded of it constantly. I I don't know if I go more than a week without thinking about that exact phrase. And uh it it means a whole lot to me. And that's just one example of just hiding God's word in your heart. Like you just you can't lose it or forget it. That one it just it just sticks. And um, yeah, I think being able to protect your own heart because God's placed his word on it, uh, and and being able to refer to it quickly and easily just makes a big difference.
SPEAKER_00:I want to say something about that scripture that's crazy. I was just thinking about that scripture, Kevin, because I had one student in that third grade class, and this is public school. So, you know, people of different faiths. But this um student and his parents were strong Christian believers and they didn't know my faith. But he felt prompted by the Lord to write me a letter once I had told the kids that I was diagnosed, that he and his family were praying for my healing. And he said, the Lord led him to that story in the Old Testament. And he said, We are praying, like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego went into the fire, that you are going to go into the fire of chemo, that the fire is going to burn the cancer, and that what you walk and when you walk out of the fire, there will not even be the scent of smoke on you.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that there will not even be the scent of cancer on you when you come out of treatment. And I took that letter, that email to chemo and kept it in my bag. And when I was discouraged and I felt like terrible, I would get it out and read it because there's power in the words of scripture. Yeah. And when we are down and low, that's why we need our community to remind us of the goodness of God and what God has done throughout history. To save and protect and carry through people in difficult circumstances.
SPEAKER_01:And what a beautiful picture of the sovereignty of God using an unbelieving third grader to bring his true and active alive word. Right. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I'll never forget those people.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I also this just popped in my head just now. You know, the whole thought of uh Luke one in the beginning was the word and the word was God. Um oh my goodness. John one. Yeah, John one. I I said Luke one and then got so distracted by the fact that I said that wrong, I couldn't even quote it right. But anyway, Jesus is the word. That's the quick version. And him being the word residing in your heart, quote unquote, and covering you with his righteousness, it's just like that very next level of like, well, I'm protected no matter what. Even if this earthly body fails me, like my heart's covered with the word. He's there and he's not letting me go.
SPEAKER_00:Amen.
SPEAKER_01:That's sweet. That's sweet. Um, the verse that Kevin was referring to earlier, Psalm 119, 11, I've hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you. Really just using God's word to guide us and shape us um so that we can walk faithfully with him. And that's old testament, and we get to do it from the perspective of the New Testament of like Christ has paid for it. His blood paid for it and washed us clean. And um because of that, we have victory for all eternity. We get to live from that regardless of what we're going through. So, what do you do when your life is interrupted by pain? Hope you've enjoyed this conversation. Um, discuss it with your friends, ask similar type questions, see what your kids have to say about it, and uh keep these conversations going beyond Sunday all the week, Monday included. Is that how it goes?
SPEAKER_00:No idea. No, but before you sign out, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:What's up?
SPEAKER_00:Uh in Mark 14, Jesus was in Bethany at the home of Simon, a man who had previously had leprosy.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:Just to clarify that.
SPEAKER_01:Did I say Peter the leper? Who did I say?
SPEAKER_00:I think you said Lazarus. Lazarus.
SPEAKER_01:Lazarus. Oh. Yeah. Okay, so it's not Lazarus the leper, it's Simon the leper. Simon the leper.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and he had previously had leprosy. So just to clarify. Wow.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You know, I'm glad you fact checked that, although I felt like we were on a real high. And then you really brought the energy down with the fact check.
SPEAKER_00:I apologize.
SPEAKER_01:But no, that's that's actually really good. I definitely was wrong on every account.
SPEAKER_02:And let's keep on taking our faith beyond Sunday.
