Beyond Sunday
Beyond Sunday is a podcast where we dive into what our Church is up to, what's happening in society, go deeper into topics from Sunday mornings, and hear leadership talks from Pastor Greg Griffith. This is a podcast of King of Kings Church in Omaha, NE. Learn more at kingofkings.org.
Beyond Sunday
Game On - Stay in the Fight
Dina, Tyler, and Peter continue the discussion on the Game On series with a message inspired by Super Smash Bros., looking at how to stay strong when life tries to knock you off the platform. They share practical strategies—expecting chaos, learning from failure, leaning on community, and trusting God’s timing—that remind us Jesus isn’t just a step toward success, but the cornerstone who holds us steady through every battle.
Stay up to date by following us on your favorite social networks.
Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube
Have questions or comments? Email us at contact@kingofkings.org.
Thanks for listening!
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings podcast, where we dive a little bit deeper into our message series and see what we're taking Beyond Sunday. My name is Dena Newsome and I have some very special guests today.
Speaker 2:Very special.
Speaker 1:Very special. Go ahead and introduce yourself, guys.
Speaker 2:My name is Tyler Rolfson. I'm the campus director at King of Kings, Fremont.
Speaker 1:Fremont.
Speaker 3:And I'm Charles McSkirton. I'm the campus director at Bentonville, arkansas.
Speaker 2:King of Kings, we already have a fourth campus.
Speaker 1:Brand new campus. Update your hear-to-hear first.
Speaker 2:That's right. Can you repeat your name one more time? I?
Speaker 3:think it was Charles McSpergeon, 98% accurate. Peter Bay, king of Kings Northwest.
Speaker 1:Thanks for being here today, guys. So we are in week three of our Game On message and this week we talked about Super Smash Brothers. Are you guys familiar with this game? I know Peter's not. We discussed it. Are you guys familiar with this game?
Speaker 3:I know peter's not, we discussed it. Of all the games that have been mentioned, I've probably played a combined hour, including super mario. Oh, just not like I've not played hardly any games in my life, minus gold and I and my buddy, james robarge's basement what about you, tyler?
Speaker 2:um, so we the. The game console that we had growing up was a sega genesis, and it started and ended there. So that's where my main gaming happened, miss pac-man and um, there was not any mario with that um, but I would go to friends' houses who had the Nintendo 64, which was the game console of my generation, and that's where I played both Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers. Did I play them? Well, no, but I played them.
Speaker 3:So Super Smash Bros started on 64?.
Speaker 2:I do not want to be the person that is committing to that information.
Speaker 1:I don't know whether GameCube came out before or after the 64.
Speaker 3:After For sure, then it, or after the 64. After for sure.
Speaker 1:Then it started on the 64.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because I learned to play Super Smash Brothers on the GameCube with my children, my older children and I kick butt at Super Smash Brothers.
Speaker 3:Oh, you mash those buttons?
Speaker 1:I have no idea what I'm doing. I just hit all the buttons.
Speaker 2:What character would you pick?
Speaker 1:I play Princess Peach, of course, because girl power and she has a golf club that knocks people off the platform, and that's the goal you want to be the last one on the platform.
Speaker 3:That's how you win. As a proud coach of the women's muskings golf team, I'm in support of that. I too am Women golfing. So yeah, I know I did some research. Super Smash Bros came out in 1999. Okay, that's when the original game came out. I don't know what platform that would be. That sounds like N64.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I've seen it played. I've never played it, but I get the idea. You're just like on different landscapes and you're smashing each other off of them.
Speaker 1:And things are moving. There's bombs being thrown, platforms are dividing and falling apart Are there flames. There are flames there are flames there are bombs, there are banana peels, there's explosions.
Speaker 3:There's lava, you can fall into the lava. When I was a child, we played a very similar game. We would climb on the backyard table and on each side of the table was a different thing that you could fall into. There was water, fire, knives and sewage, and we would push each other off of the picnic table and you would just try to not fall into the knives or the fire. But if you're fired you'd jump quickly into the water.
Speaker 1:Then you were okay. Knives were your goner Okay.
Speaker 2:All right. So I see a Wikipedia entry here that has Super Smash Bros two pictures, one with a Nintendo 64 console and one with a GameCube console. So I would say we're both on it, oh gee Nice.
Speaker 1:It was available on the GameCube and then the Wii. I've also played it on the Wii. Yeah, it got a reboot. So, in light of Super Smash Brothers, my question for you is Smash Rooms, yay or nay? Are you familiar with smash rooms?
Speaker 2:Define your terms, Dina.
Speaker 1:So much like an escape room where you go to solve a series of puzzles with a group of people for entertainment, to escape the room in 60 minutes or less. Now available even here in Omaha, are smash rooms where you go put on goggles, get a sledgehammer and just smash all the stuff in the room. Yay or nay?
Speaker 2:So here's my one connection to that. I have not participated in one of these, um, but when I, when I was living in Connecticut uh, not to take this in too serious of a direction but there was a gal who lost her husband far too soon. He was in his 50s and woke up one morning and he had passed away. And so it's just the natural grief process and you know we loved on her and supported her as best as we could. But one of her activities in the grief process that a counselor pointed her to was going to a smash room and they handed her a sledgehammer and she destroyed whatever was in front of her she said it was cathartic I have not done it.
Speaker 1:I I am. I'm a little bit too gen x, gen X in that, destroying things of value for no financial benefits. I feel like I just can't do it. But my kids have done it. Great stress relief. They loved it.
Speaker 3:I would like to see if there's actually any clinical studies that connect this to good stress relief or just like exacerbate, because then you go home and you can't smash things and you're like, oh my life's even harder now.
Speaker 2:That's how you schedule a second appointment at the smash room. That's how they get rid of you.
Speaker 1:That's how they reel you in like a monthly membership. You can come every two weeks. Subscription model.
Speaker 3:Now I want to challenge this whole Gen Xers. Don't smash things. I feel like you are the smashing generation. Wreck-it Ralph is a Gen Xer.
Speaker 1:True, true, I'm a throw-it-away generation. I'm not like a smash-it-and-destroy-it generation Like the things that they put in this room from what I hear is like old TVs and furniture and stuff that like cracks and smashes and you know stuff I don't like. There's a part of me that this just seems senseless, like this is a nay for me. I would not go to one. I'll go to an escape room every day of the week and twice on Sunday. But, I could not do, and you're busy on. Sundays too.
Speaker 1:I don't think I could do a smash room. I really have no interest. I think I would just like even though I know it's somebody's junk I just don't know that I could do that yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:Bottom line for me is smash room is definitely more my speed than uh, than the other room. You said the puzzle.
Speaker 1:What's it called escape room?
Speaker 3:oh, I went, I did that once oh, it was impossible.
Speaker 1:We'd bring in that noel guy, you were with my son.
Speaker 3:I think yes you like ring the bell because you get stuck. And then no, it all. Guy climbs out of his maintenance closet office and he's like, hmm, have you found the flags? Like yeah, we found the flags. And then he's like, yep, and that you'll find your clue.
Speaker 2:And I'm like no, we didn't find her. We wouldn't have called you out here if we knew. Hello Katie. She is a former third grade teacher and she is the perfect person you want in an escape room. Whether it's just two people and Katie is one of them, or eight people and Katie is one of them, she is the one that's going to find your way all through the puzzles. If you find information, you don't think about it yourself, you bring it first to Katie and then she gets you through the room.
Speaker 3:She's the antithesis of Peter Bay, the last person you want in your escape room.
Speaker 1:My son told me how useless you were, absolutely. He was so stoked when he came to. This was a youth event. Let's specify that Last year there was a youth event and my son attended and brought a friend and he was stoked because he didn't know a lot of the other people there and he got matched in your room and he was like I knew Peter, though, so I thought it was going to be good. And then we got into the room and Peter can do nothing.
Speaker 2:Is this our transition to do expect chaos?
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 3:I'm not even offended, it's just true.
Speaker 1:It is, he adores you.
Speaker 3:Christian. Yeah, you're my dude, I get it, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:But my son has high standards because we do escape rooms often as a family. That's our jam and we are really good at them. Like I would love to do one with your sister, Katie, Now when she's in town.
Speaker 2:Oh, you guys will have a blast. You would like really do well to try and beat the record.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like if you go into it with that sort of mindset, you guys would do great.
Speaker 1:I love it. We set rules on ourselves that we can't ask for clues until there's, like a certain amount of time left.
Speaker 2:That's the proper way to do it.
Speaker 3:For you listeners. If you find me and even ask me a puzzle question, Just get out of the way. I'm going to go all Gen X and smash something.
Speaker 1:But, peter, can you name three video games? You have five seconds and go.
Speaker 3:Fortnite, Super Smash Bros, Super Mario Brothers. Yay, Game on baby.
Speaker 1:All right, so that's our transition into game on. This was week three of our series. Pastor Zach Zender is leading this message series and this week's message was about staying in the fight, which is a key piece of Super Smash Bros. If you do play it, it really is about lasting the longest, staying on the platforms, getting the most points by your time in the game. So what are you guys taking beyond Sunday from this message?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean there's a lot of good points. I think we're going to walk through the four strategies sustained in the fight of faith. I think for me, this is something that, as a person who walks in the faith, with people who walk in the faith and people who don't, and seeing just pain around me, this was a really encouraging message for me to hear. I had a lunch last week with a good friend of mine who was reading a book and he was talking about how people who are dying to have time with them is to stand at the edge of a cliff with like nothing hidden Like and I think that was a really cool picture.
Speaker 3:And um, and at the same time, we're all dying to some degree, and so, um, staying in the fight with people, whether they're ready to be open and authentic or not. These were great strategies for me to help those I'm getting to walk with and help myself as I'm in the fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, At each of our campuses after the message we had. We're calling a power up moment. Um, and the language I've been using in Fremont is that we don't want to just be hearers of the word, we want to be doers of the word as we receive the word of God. How are we going to respond to it?
Speaker 2:And the scripture that I think Zach only I think he referenced it at one point, it wasn't like on the screen or anything, and maybe we've heard it before, but it just really crystallized for me was when Jesus to his disciples in John 16, you know, this is hours before crucifixion, betrayal and crucifixion where he says to his disciples in this world you will have trouble, Not, you might not, you know we'll see, but you will have trouble and expect chaos. But then he doesn't end there, he says but take heart, I have overcome the world. And to be in that sort of mindset that the promise on this side of heaven, on this side of eternity, is that sometimes things are going to go really great, where your life is just you're seeing blessings left and right, and then sometimes it. Then sometimes you're going to see and experience chaos, but in the midst of it all, Jesus has overcome, he is overcoming and he will overcome one day, ultimately, the trouble that we face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my biggest takeaway was just one line that he said where it was the enemy doesn't attack what is in the threat. That hit me hard and I was like, oh, I need to remember that when I feel like I'm getting hit really hard, okay, what in my life am I doing right for the kingdom that I'm a threat to satan?
Speaker 1:yeah like that's just a way to flip that. Okay, so zach did walk us through four key game strategies if you're playing super Brothers, but also spiritual faith strategies, and the first one was expect chaos, and he started that out with a question of should life be this chaotic, what? What do you guys like? What struck you about talking about the chaos or expecting chaos?
Speaker 2:I feel like that's a question that people on the other side of this podcast might be listening or might be asking right now, where so much of life thought Zach actually laid it out really beautifully where sometimes that chaos is a spiritual attack, like you just referenced, dina, it's from the enemy, but then sometimes it's God who is throwing you in the middle of chaos. That's not. We're not just blaming everything on Satan left and right, but it's actually Jesus himself. Right, god, god threw him into that on the cross. And to be in that spot, humbly aware that, regardless of the source of the chaos around, if we go into it with an expectation like man, maybe things aren't going to be as pretty as I wish or hope they would be I think our soul is better situated to handle it, and even more so when we remember the promises of Jesus, who will never leave us or forsake us, regardless of the situation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's nowhere where we're promised a simple, non-chaotic life. So should life be this chaotic? Sure For now, if that's what you're feeling, maybe, I do think that there are certain decisions I can make that can lead to chaos and ones that lead away from it. Also, the people I put around me can lead to chaos, and so I do think that when I'm in chaos, it's important for me to ask the question of like okay, what has gotten me to this point? And no matter what that is, I mean, god is still with me, he's still sustaining me, like the disciples on the ship as the boat's being tossed by the rain and the waves. They were in chaos, but Christ was with them and he is with us amidst the chaos.
Speaker 3:So one like what got me here? And oftentimes it's my own doing and sometimes it's not doing, and sometimes it's not, um, but then to be anxious about nothing and everything like give thanks so that I am able to give my attention to god and and uh, when I do that, I I do see that most of most often, my attention gets off myself too, and then I put out on the people around me and then I get more out of my feels and out of the cast, of my own mind, and that tends to help. But yeah, if you feel like you're in cast, you probably are, and should you be, nah, I mean it's going to happen. So I wouldn't say the answer is not no, because if you're in it, you're in it.
Speaker 1:Right. I think there's a misconception that if you follow God's Word and go to church and do all you know, read your Bible and do all the right things, you're going to live a very peaceful life and it's going to be smooth sailing and everything's going to go right and you're going to be happy. And it doesn't say that anywhere in God's Word. He never promised that, and Zach pointed it out. He said he talked about the misconception that the safest place to be is the center of God's will, and then he followed it up with God's will doesn't guarantee safety. It guarantees his presence and that's what God told us. He said he'd be with us. He didn't promise that it was going to be great. He promised he'd be with us and that's better than safety. That's what I really liked about the expect chaos part of it.
Speaker 2:I think what it does is it protects our minds from being disillusioned by the things that can come our way. And so if there can be like this fortification that happens where it's like okay, whatever comes this way, whether it's like Peter said, it's due to you mentioned your specific mistakes, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, um, or a spiritual attack from the enemy, or, in the mystery of God's sovereignty, something that he's thrown to us in a chaotic situation. Like, okay, I'm not going to try to assign blame, to try and control the situation, but instead I'm just going to say, okay, how can I respond faithfully here? And that's actually like the best place for our souls to be. Then we're not trying to figure out these games of like oh, why is it so chaotic right now? It's like, well, actually, this is what Jesus said would happen.
Speaker 3:Right and we don't, and I love that point of like. We don't have to cast that blame. It doesn't have to be someone's fault, because that that's a tendency as well, as I'm in the cast because so and so it's because of my kids, it's because of my job, my boss, my whatever point our finger at something, yep can I share a story?
Speaker 2:yeah, so zach and I were at the concordia seminary campus last week for orientation for the seminary program I'm entering into, and we wrote a lot of Ubers.
Speaker 2:I asked Zach after that did we save money by riding all these Ubers versus renting a car? He's like, oh, maybe, but man, Uber you just the drivers are fascinating, and so I don't share this as like a judgmental thing, but this was very eyeopening. When you're in church circles a lot, you hear a lot of churchy talk, and one of our drivers one day he was clearly hurt by the church and his thinking has been shaped by other philosophies and worldviews, and so his big thing was like you are in control of your world, so if you're talking to someone who is like a victim mindset, like yes, we need to speak words of empowerment, Like yes, you can do it, like that sort of thing. But he took that so far that, like everything that happens in your life is a result of your own decisions, To the point where again, I'm not saying this out of judgment, but he was telling Zach and I that the gal he had just picked up and dropped off was ridden with anxiety and he asked her like what's going on, man?
Speaker 2:And she said oh, I'm, I'm, I'm in the process of cancer treatments, Um and again. This is what the guy said, because he was thinking probably not the best of ways. He said well, that's because, do you see, all the stress that you're bringing upon your body, that stress has caused your cancer. So you need to find a way to relieve yourself of the stress, and that will defeat the cancer.
Speaker 1:Oh goodness.
Speaker 2:Our answer as Christians is not that. Yeah, but you can get this idea of when, when you're, when, the way that you're thinking. We're all thinking theologically all the time, even those that say they don't believe in god. Like that is a theological statement that that suffering is caused by her decisions. And just to be crystal clear, right, like sin, disease is in this world and it's not due to anything that she's done, right? What was Jesus saying in John 9 when these people like well, this man that was born blind, was it his sin or his parents' sin? Who can we blame it on? And Jesus is like, he's like. That's not the question. It's actually for the glory of God here. All that to say, thinking rightly and Jesus-centered about the chaos and the suffering around us has direct implications on our witness into the world.
Speaker 1:Amen. So Zach moved on to point two, which is to chase failure. To chase failure, and he started this with saying you can't win Super Smash Brothers if you don't hit start. You got to get in the game at some point, but then he talked kind of a story of Ryan Leak, I don't know if either of you want to touch base on that, or what spoke to you about chasing failure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, ryan Leak is a guy who had a conversation with Kobe Bryant and what did Kobe say If you couldn't fail, if you knew you couldn't fail, what would you do? Got a tryout with one of the teams, the phoenix suns, and he tried out and he clearly didn't make the team. Because he's like a regular, he's a really good basketball player, but he's a he's not an nba level guy, um, but it did lead him to become a motivational speaker for several of the teams, um, and for me it was just, once again, that encouragement of like, what is failure? And because I think, like we, we classify failure as like losing the game or not getting the job or um, and I I know for me I learned a lot more from the games I lost than the ones I won.
Speaker 3:When I just like happy-go-lucky and let's get some pizza, when I lost the game, I was like, why did I lose that game? What do I need to get better at? And so it was probably a more process of failure to not think about the game and get the pizza, although delicious and fun, and it was more successful to stop and think about why what happened just happened. And the reality was I probably played similarly in both games, but one game my team just happened to win. And so that that question of like, what is failure? Yeah, and, and then one thing that came out, um, from the message was it's wise to step into chaos and chase something that I may fail at, because that's where I'll grow. So that's that to me, because that's where I'll grow.
Speaker 2:So that's that to me. I've talked with Pastor Greg before about I think it's Craig Rochelle out of Oklahoma City. When he's leading his teams he'll say I want you to have a bias towards action, meaning, if you're going to err to one side or another, I want you to be found trying something, going for something and potentially failing, versus failing to take a step in the first place. And I just love that mindset where I mean to even to be told by the leader of your organization, the spiritual shepherd that God's placed over us for such a time as this. To be told failure is actually not the worst thing. To be told failure is actually not the worst thing. It's a worse thing.
Speaker 2:If you choose to not do anything at all and there's so much freedom that can come from that. It's like, okay, well, even, as Peter said, well, what is failure? Even? Anyway, you get back to that classic Thomas Edison thing of when I learned X amount of times how not to make a light bulb and to be able to. Actually, I think we're going to be at our best, whether that's in our vocations and where the Lord has called us, and then especially in our walk with Jesus, if we have a bias towards, let's go for it. Let's show up. I don't want to be held back by fear or the what ifs of this doesn't go wrong. I think it gives God awesome opportunities to show up. I don't want to be held back by fear or the what ifs of this doesn't go wrong. I think it gives God awesome opportunities to show up and show off when we just take steps of consistent obedience and just show what he does.
Speaker 1:I think it was Michael Jordan who said you don't make any of the shots you don't take. I think that's a Jordan quote. But that's what I thought of with this that you got to step out there and put yourself out there. That's what I thought of with this that you know you got to step out there and put yourself out there and maybe you do fail, in whatever context that is, but you're definitely not going to succeed or grow if you're not trying new things. Okay, so Zach moved into the third point of his stay in the game plan and that is get a player two.
Speaker 3:So oh is it correcting?
Speaker 2:Are you correcting my, my quote? No, no, no, no. I just felt bad because I was laughing. You're making this really serious point and I could not help but think of this beautiful scene from the office where michael scott posts posts that he. He says it's a way Gretzky quote. So he says in quotes you miss 100% of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky end quote. And then he says Michael Scott, Sorry, Dean, that's all right.
Speaker 1:That's all right. The office never derails. What are you talking about? So Zach's point three was get a player two, that we are stronger on a team. What jumped out at you guys about this point or this philosophy?
Speaker 3:Yeah, in the city of Omaha, the Gallup poll showed that a high percentage of Omahaans are not satisfied with their relationships, and then a higher percentage of those folks were like but I'm not looking to improve it and that's a really interesting thing. Activities and screens and jobs and whatever it may be that give us just enough dopamine hit to lull us to sleep. But we desire for something more, and that something more first, I think, is often found by just seeing the people around us and actually having human interaction. Ultimately, that something more is going to lead us. Seeing the people around us and actually having human interaction Ultimately, that's something more is going to lead us. I think the more time we spend with people, the more time we start to see God at work and so being in community. The kingdom of God is all about relationships. The further we pull away from that, the less fulfilling a life we tend to have, and I've seen that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if I have much to add, just a yes and amen. And just what an opportunity we have as the there is when they see genuine friendships in, like when we're animated by the spirit of god and we're following the model of jesus, and like that, that that will elicit a hunger for them to experience the same thing. And so it's you, you. You recognize where things might be off in our world, and then that actually presents an opportunity for us to present something really winsome and beautiful to the world that desperately needs it.
Speaker 1:I really liked the frame of reference of talking about David and Jonathan here, how David kind of went through a crazy ride, you know, with Saul chasing him and not wanting you know him to thrive, and everything. But he became friends with Saul's son, jonathan, and that friendship just endured the hardships of the dynamics there, with his father and them having them having to be friends almost in secret, you know, um, but just having each other to rely on, and that's such a just like you've talked about the community, the friendships is such an important piece of our life and our faith. Yeah, so Zach's final point was don't look for shortcuts. I don't know about you. I'm, I'm was. Don't look for shortcuts. I don't know about you. I'm looking for a cheat code when I'm playing video games, but not necessarily in my spiritual walk. I don't know that there's a lot of cheat codes or shortcuts there, but what jumped out at you when he talked about not looking for shortcuts?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the part where he kind of talked about the prosperity gospel and the platform gospel, um, which really did kind of tie tie the whole message together, because both of those are built on this kind of faulty notion of grace where we we do good things and then God blesses us, and so it's the exact inverse of what the gospel is, where we do bad things and God forgives us out of his abundant grace. I had never heard the term platform gospel before. Was that new to you guys as well?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But once he explained it I was like, oh, I totally see that, and I don't know what the statistics are, but the number of those in Gen Z who aspire to be influencers, it's really high Because that's what they're seeing. And because that's what they're seeing, they see the possibilities and look at all the likes and the follows and I don't even know what the other this is not a world I know very well here. Repost, all those type of things, yep. And so what I liked about Zach just identifying it is saying like what was his language? Get planted before you get a platform Right.
Speaker 2:And it's not that seeking influence is bad, but the Lord made us to be influential upon the world. That's what being mission-minded in Christ is. But you can see how topsy-turvy that can get for our souls when the desire to be famous it's really just the 21st century version of being famous is so out of line with where your inner character is that it can crumble in a second. And suddenly you're just worried about what other people think of you rather than what, who you know you are in the Lord.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought back to a time in college. I got to speak at a chapel and I had this great message prepared. I was like so pumped. I was like, oh, I'm going to do great, People are going to love this. And I delivered it and then like, and I don't really know how people received it, but I felt hollow and I was like so mad at myself and I was trying to figure out why. And as I sat and stood on it alone in my dorm room, I realized, oh, it's because I was doing this message for me to do it well and to look good, oh, it's because I was doing this message for me to do it well and to look good, and the things I said might have still been true, but my motive was out of whack.
Speaker 3:And so I've seen that time and time again. If I'm doing something to glorify myself, I know it and it doesn't feel right. And then the other side of it, there's a question Zach asked. He said what is my posture when I feel a calling from God but don't know what to do? And I had to think about that for a little bit too. And is it a posture of like go, go, go? I think that's honestly my posture is like then just work harder until something works my way, and that's not entirely bad. I mean, that's like I might fail, but it's okay. But at the same time, it's like it's okay to be active if my heart is like God, I trust you and I'm going to go and show me Like if we're inviting God into the activity, into the mess or into seasons of waiting. I think that's where the freedom comes, is when it's no longer ours to carry but it's given back to.
Speaker 2:God. I think there's something to be said there with like active waiting. And what were the years that Zach pointed out out? David, he waited, so he was anointed by samuel. We did that two weeks ago with the, with the first message in this series, and then it was 15 years before what was spoken over him and prophesied over him became reality. And then there was another seven and a half years before it was the entire kingdom. And you can talk about Jesus too, with everything that was spoken of him early on in life, as a baby and as a toddler, and then it wasn't until he was age 30 that he was baptized in the Jordan. It's so much the Lord's timing and what the Lord knows best versus us forcing an outcome before we're ready.
Speaker 1:David really let things kind of play out on God's schedule and didn't try to hurry it along. And Zach pointed out like he had the opportunity to even kill Saul and just end the hunt and, you know, step into who he's supposed to be and all of that and he did not take that opportunity. And what I really liked that Zach pointed out about that was he said how you rise matters as much as if you rise, that it really is about how you do it and not just the end result. The way that you play the game makes a difference.
Speaker 2:Hear, hear.
Speaker 1:No more cheat codes for me, darn it. No, all right. So, as we wrap up today, what are your final takeaways from this message?
Speaker 3:Well, we got one more left. This Sunday we're going to dive into Fortnite, another game that I've only seen and not played, so I'm going to learn a littlenight. Another game that I've only seen and not played, so I'm going to learn a little bit more about that game. And, uh, more more excitedly, I'm going to learn more of of king david and another one of his trials and how god didn't leave him, because that feels like me, like I've got more failures and successes, but I get to live out of the identity of being a child of God, safe through Christ. So bring it on.
Speaker 2:I think my biggest thing is just the don't give up. Show up. So, whether it's too chaotic around, if failure is the story, if you feel like you're alone, or if you're tempted with cheat codes Was that what you said, cheat?
Speaker 1:codes yeah, keybinds. I learned that you said.
Speaker 2:Cheat codes yeah, key binds.
Speaker 1:I learned that term the other day.
Speaker 2:Thanks.
Speaker 3:Zach, key, bind, key, bind. Were you listening at that point in the sermon, peter? Yeah, probably not. Is that a super-smash-broke? That's more of like a computer game-ish thing.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's where you press two buttons at the same time.
Speaker 1:Dina would. So you do a lot of keybinds when you game on a computer keyboard because then when I hit my shift key I can keybind that three different actions take place. So instead of me having to hit all four of those buttons together, I'm hitting one button and boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 2:It's a triple move.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can do that. I don't know. I'm not as much a like Xbox or PlayStation player. I play much more on the computer. So key vines are like, yeah, they're, they're, they're a great thing there. I guess those are cheat codes.
Speaker 2:They're open opportunities.
Speaker 1:No, you're not, it's not really cheating.
Speaker 2:It's kind of a shortcut, but it kind of sounds like you're justifying D Dina I know I can't do that. Anyway, yeah, what I'm taking beyond Sunday, don't give up, keep showing up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the key line that really stuck with me was towards the end of when Zach was talking about not looking for shortcuts. He said Jesus is not a stepping stone, he is the cornerstone. And I was like there, it is All of it. Boom, right there, he's not a stepping stone, he is the cornerstone and we can put everything on him. Well, thank you guys for being here. We'll be back next week to discuss Fortnite, which is another game that I have played very slightly. I just think it's ironic that I've tried all these games and you've played none, peter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm just not much of a gamer. Next year I'll have to. You just grew up so differently. I'm going to have to find out what the games are so I can be into them.
Speaker 1:Maybe next year it'll be like board games.
Speaker 3:That'd be great. You can jump right in there. Oh, I'm real good with board games.
Speaker 1:What's your go?
Speaker 3:Oh, currently it's called the Game. It's a card game called the Game. It's a cooperative game. Yes, and you have to like, talk, talk, talk through all of it, which is fascinating.
Speaker 1:I love that one.
Speaker 2:That sounds really presumptuous to just be called the Game. Yeah, like they've established themselves, the Game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, the maker of it is like he's an egomaniac, I think, but it's a great game he did well what?
Speaker 1:about you, Tyler. What's your go-to board game?
Speaker 2:Board game. So I love doing like Bananagrams. I don't know if that counts as a board game. It's like a Scrabble thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But the kids and I have gotten into that recently, which has been fun. And then I don't know if you guys have played the card version of Monopoly. Yes, monopoly deal. So it cuts down the game of Monopoly from five hours to 20 minutes, which is much better for my attention span, but that's a great way to teach my children about capitalism.
Speaker 1:My family's on a run right now of Spicy Uno. We're getting together all the time to play Spicy Uno Nice. That's our go-to. Well, until then, until next week, let's keep living our faith beyond Sunday.
