Beyond Sunday
Beyond Sunday is a podcast where we dive into what our Church is up to, what's happening in society, go deeper into topics from Sunday mornings, and hear leadership talks from Pastor Greg Griffith. This is a podcast of King of Kings Church in Omaha, NE. Learn more at kingofkings.org.
Beyond Sunday
Don't Skip This - Week 4
Stay up to date by following us on your favorite social networks.
Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube
Have questions or comments? Email us at contact@kingofkings.org.
Thanks for listening!
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings podcast, where we dive a little bit deeper into our message series and see what we're taking beyond Sunday. My name is Dena Newsom and I am ecstatic to have some wonderful guests today. Go ahead and introduce yourself, friends.
Speaker 2:My name is Kate Solberg and I'm the Associate Campus Director at our Northwest Campus.
Speaker 3:I'm Roger Timer. I am the Pastor of Global Missions and Faith Formation.
Speaker 1:And Roger, we're coming up on a big time for you.
Speaker 3:I'm T-minus three days in the office. Oh my goodness, who is counting?
Speaker 1:Well, apparently you are Pastor Roger. How long have you been at King of Kings?
Speaker 3:30 years 30 years.
Speaker 1:And how long have you been at King of Kings? 30 years 30 years and how long have you been a pastor? 41., 41. And you are getting ready to retire.
Speaker 3:I am.
Speaker 1:We are having some fun celebrations coming up. The church is so gracious this coming Sunday you'll get to preach your last message and then we'll get to discuss it here next week.
Speaker 2:Oh excellent.
Speaker 3:Without me, without you, I'll tune in, I'll be listening.
Speaker 1:So I'm sure you both are aware but maybe some of our listeners don't know we have a huge back to school event coming up at two of our campuses, Millard and Fremont, and that got me thinking about back to school. So my question for you today is what was your favorite part about the start of a new school year when you were growing up Yours when you were growing up and what maybe were your kids'?
Speaker 3:I just loved it to figure out who is going to be in my class and which are going to be the guys I'm going to get to play with. So that's kind of cool, and then also you know who the teacher is. But oftentimes I had an idea of that.
Speaker 2:I can't really remember when I was a student because I was a teacher for so many years and like this time of year, like I still have like secondary anxiety, like what bulletin board isn't done, like what student could possibly been left off my roster that I haven't made supplies for, but once all the kids come, it's like ah.
Speaker 3:Kate, here's the question.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Because I was a teacher too.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:And some. We had a little debate amongst teachers at the beginning of school what's the best practice? Because some said do not smile for the first two weeks, mile for the first two weeks. So they have a sense of clear boundaries and they are not going to push those boundaries if you're yes. Was that you?
Speaker 2:Well, I was always taught that it's way easier to loosen up the reins than to tighten them up and to start tighter, and so I always taught my rules and regulations very clear. You follow them all. But who are we kidding, like no, I'm going to smile at every kid I see Like I love school and I love kids you know, but I agree with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I did. I follow that for the first, maybe 15, 16 minutes, then it's game out.
Speaker 2:Wow, you did.
Speaker 3:Roger.
Speaker 1:My son's first year of middle school he came home and I was asking him about all his different teachers, because that was when he transitioned from having one main teacher to multiple. And he was talking about one of his teachers and oh, she was so mean, she's so mean, mom. And I said you know, she's probably going to relax some. She's just dropping the hammer here hard at the start of the year and then she'll relax. And he said to me I don't know what you mean by drop the hammer, but she's got a hammer, a screwdriver, a saw and all that stuff she's dropping.
Speaker 1:She's just mean Wow. I mean do it Awesome, I mean do it Awesome. My favorite part of the new school year was buying new school supplies. That was my favorite, yeah yeah, that was my daughter's favorite. My son could care less. I think he used the same school supplies for every year of high school. We didn't buy a single thing, not even sure he used them.
Speaker 3:They borrowed a piece of paper when they got to class.
Speaker 2:Right, both my kids, rebecca every single supply I bought her, she brought every single one home. The last day of May my son no idea where any of them are Came home with nothing and like they both couldn't figure each other out. Like Rebecca's like what do you mean, you don't know where your stuff is? And Ben's like how do you know where your stuff is? So I literally have tons of her school supplies in my kitchen. God created them each uniquely. He did he did Well.
Speaker 1:Okay, shifting gears from back to school to kind of leading into. This is week four of our message hey, don't Skip this where we're looking at some Bible events that are lesser known or maybe not everyone is familiar with. This Bible event has a little bit of kind of like a scary situation in it, and so my starter question is are you a panicker Pastor Greg talked a little bit about. He's pretty much a cool cucumber in a crisis, except when it involves his daughters or wife. So are you guys a panicker? Are you a?
Speaker 3:clear headed. Yeah, if you amp up the anxiousness, I am down. I'm a non anxious presence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of like Greg, like if it's my own children, yeah, I may lose all my wits about me, but with most other people, be real calm.
Speaker 3:It's interesting to select what it is that I'm going to choose to be more emotionally responsive for, because it doesn't mean that there aren't some squirrel wheels turning on the inside, you know, but what's led on the outside might be a little bit different. But I think it is significant for us to say, ok, what do we want to give emotional intensity to, and how does it affect people around us?
Speaker 1:Agree, I'm pretty calm, collected, like very, get this problem solved, like get whatever you know, if we need medical attention or we need to find a parent or whatever the crisis is. But then after I'll have a nervous breakdown After everything is good again.
Speaker 3:You'd still be fun in a nervous breakdown when you have one phone me All right, I will. Or at least Zoom me in okay.
Speaker 1:Something to see. Maybe I'll make a video.
Speaker 3:It'll go viral.
Speaker 1:All right. So our Bible event this week that we're looking at is really about a coming back to life story. So, pastor Roger, do you want to kind of give us a little summary, like an overview of what this event entails?
Speaker 3:Well, we can talk about that theme of emotional intensity because we're dealing with some real life situations the Shunammite woman who had the gift of hospitality and she opened up her home regularly to the prophet Elisha, who has to be somewhat itinerant because of his ministry. So they developed a very endeared relationship and he looked for what is her need, developed a very endeared relationship and he looked for what is her need and she hoped. She was even afraid to mention it but she had no child, you know. But she'd given up on hope and we all have been in situations close enough to know what that's like when someone's is just even afraid to hope. And when that happens and she has that child because he prophesies okay, you got it, a year from now you're going to have a son, you feel the joy with her and how ecstatic that would have been. And as her family, her family grew again. Elisha visits and now Elisha is not in the area but he hears word and message later in the story in a certain way. But what had happened was the boy was out with her dad in the field, had some kind of brain thing happen with a big headache and he died. So she came with a message, so intense was she on seeing Elisha.
Speaker 3:I've got to see Elisha, elisha's number one right-hand man, who is also just kind of his servant guy. There too, gehazi went out to greet her as she was approaching, because something seems wrong. But she says no, everything's fine. She went right past him, went right to Elisha You've got to come help please Right now. He's dead, he's not breathing, whatever.
Speaker 3:And Elisha sends Gehazi with his staff. You run ahead and you put the staff on him and and you put the staff on him and I've seen God do miracles, using sometimes just the faith that we have, and we gather around something like that. She then says, okay, that can happen, but I'm sticking with you, elisha, and followed him. The staff thing did not work. Elisha got there, took some time aside. Also implied in the whole thing, of course, is praying and trusting, but he actually laid on top of the boy and there was a coming to life. Resuscitation is what it would look like to us. That is one of those resurrection events after death experiences. That is in the Old Testament and it's pointing to obviously that our God is a God of life.
Speaker 1:Thank you. That's a great summary. So if you wanted to read more about this, this is in 2 Kings 4, and it's mainly 18 to 37, if you're looking it up on your own. So hearing Pastor Greg talk this through, what are you guys taking beyond Sunday? What really stood out to you from this message? I loved when.
Speaker 2:Pastor Greg encouraged us to, instead of moving toward despair, to commit, pursue and run to God. I don't know what else is better advice than that.
Speaker 3:I like the part where he made the analogy just as Elisha stretched out his arms. It was one of the ways that the Old Testament foreshadows the coming gospel event of Jesus stretching his arms out for us. And very literally, jesus breathes life into us, and spiritually, through his Holy Spirit. I mean that's literal, but it's through His death that we have victory over death and through His resurrection we have resurrection.
Speaker 1:I really liked the points that he talked about, which, to me, were really ways that Jesus can kind of touch us, and that's through a prophet, through prayer and through resurrection, like the resurrection of, in this event is of the child. But, like you said, it's Jesus that touches us, the resurrection of Jesus that touches us.
Speaker 3:It's kind of interesting too if you take the theme of resurrection. That is something, of course, we look forward to literally with us in resurrection after this life, resurrection, new body in the new heaven and new earth. But there are resurrection metaphors throughout our lives and God uses things that sometimes are dead that he brings to life, and that's what makes life so rich, Because we go through the pain of watching things that have got to pass away or die, if you will, so that there may be a new kind of life around that.
Speaker 1:So one of the questions that Pastor Greg kind of hinted at was how do you keep your faith strong when things seem hopeless? He talked a lot about hope, and how do you in your life keep your faith strong when things get to where they seem hopeless?
Speaker 2:It's a big question. It's lovely to watch you think, kate, I'm watching it.
Speaker 3:It's good, it's good, something good's coming, I feel it.
Speaker 2:Well, you were just talking about the reference to the Lord stretching out the heavens, the creator of heavens. Pastor Greg referred to Isaiah 42, verse 5, and that's where it says the creator of heavens. Pastor Greg referred to Isaiah 42, verse 5. And that's where it says the creator of the heavens, who stretched the mount, spread out the earth with all that springs from it, who gives breath to its people and life to those who walk on it.
Speaker 2:Verse 6 is like where I was, like oh, that's good. It says I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness. I will take hold of your hand, I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles, to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness. Like wow, yeah, isn't that amazing. That's verse six. And so like what? What could I possibly get from this life that would ever compare with that? So I just this life will disappoint us, your plans will fail, things will not turn out how you hoped, but that doesn't mean there's not still a plan and a purpose and something quite possibly even better when you hitch your wagon to the Lord.
Speaker 3:Jesus used that verse as a quote for his first sermon.
Speaker 2:Verse five or six, both of them.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, his first sermon is in Luke four. The spirit of the Lord is on me because he's anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners, recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed and proclaim the year of Lord's freedom.
Speaker 2:That's good, it's good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's good. It's good, yeah, and because it's, you know, the prophet is already foretelling of Jesus, but there's also a foretelling that's happening sooner than that, because there's another kind of good news that the people are seeing, but the ultimate fulfillment, of course, is in Jesus.
Speaker 2:And I didn't really realize that until I, many years walking with the Lord. It's so simple, but the whole Bible is one story of Jesus. So many people say, oh, that's the God of the Old Testament or it's different, but it's not, it's one story. And the way Jesus lays that foundation and points us to Jesus' coming, that foundation and points us to Jesus's coming. You know it just. The more you study the Bible, the more you see the brilliant, like tapestry.
Speaker 3:Oh, my yes, yeah, yeah and um, okay. So here's an analogy the more you study the Bible, you see the brilliant tapestry of how he weaves people's stories together into his story. And then you start weaving your story into that story. So what do you do when you hit the kerbump and you have that panic moment or that kind of thing? What do you do when your hope crashes? And that's the human experience. Like Greg said, the Bible doesn't short. That. That's what our life is like.
Speaker 3:For me, it's very important that I have carved out time alone with God, that I have time to not only read but also pause and listen and pray. And it doesn't necessarily fix everything, but it does open me up to be I don't want to say to be fixed, but yes, to be fixed. Things start making sense over time with that, because it sometimes gives you a chance to put perspective on it. That's not just your perspective, it's God's perspective. He sees it so radically different.
Speaker 3:Look in the Bible event today. If she runs to him, elisha sees things differently because he sees. Today, if she runs to him, elisha sees things differently because he sees. You know, just like he could see that God would give her a baby. Now he also sees God can raise her from the dead. But that's his business. But let's just be about it. And sometimes we need to get in that perspective by spending time alone with him, reading the Bible and in prayer, and sometimes just journaling some of those things that you're learning, and then expect that he's going to meet you at your point of need.
Speaker 1:There's a phrase that when I was younger, people would say and they talk about, hope floats, and I always thought I was kind of stupid and kind of cheesy, and then the further I got in my walk with the Lord, that's the imagery that I think of when I get to those points where I feel like hopeless, whatever it is that's weighing me down and I feel like is pulling me under the water.
Speaker 1:I spend time in prayer, sometimes in the Word, but mostly for me it's just conversation with God, and I'm letting those weights go and letting Him carry them till I feel like, okay, my head's above water, and maybe some days I feel like I'm even floating higher than that, but at least I'm getting my head above water. And now this phrase that I thought was so dumb when I was younger hope floats is what I think of when I'm struggling with my own hope that, okay, I just got to get to the point where I'm floating again, and I know how to do that, because I just got to turn over some of my burdens to God, who's just there waiting for them. I mean, he's big enough to take them all.
Speaker 3:Imagine what it was for this Shunammite woman. She was afraid to have hope when she was childless.
Speaker 1:Well, like you said, she had given up, she'd given up.
Speaker 3:And then she got it and then now her son's dead and it's very honest, she's upset and angry, you know, and despair and distraught and you know appropriately complete basket case. But there was something different about her then because she had underneath it a sense of hope that God could do something and she went after that. Kudos for her.
Speaker 1:So Pastor Greg kind of moved on to talking about prayer, really focusing on prayer and how can prayer serve as a source of hope and how do you guys answer that question? I kind of already referred to how that serves as a source of hope for me. It's really I feel like sometimes me dumping my issues on God and hopefully hearing some response of Him, whether that's comfort or calm, or sometimes direction and wisdom and guidance, or sometimes just peace. Know how does that speak? How does prayer serve as a source of hope for you guys?
Speaker 3:a very important part of my prayer life. Uh is usually the section at the beginning that takes a considerable amount of time with um praise, with understanding who God is and what he's done, because that frames everything else and it frames all the other prayers that follow. But it also fills me with hope. By the time I've finished. Some of those times, those things that have distraught me may not be my main issues, drop me, may not be my main issues. Sometimes, in the midst of those praise he shows me is he shows me more about who he is, because that's what praise can do. It shows me what part of that I need in my world and I don't want to go on and on, but it's worth pursuing.
Speaker 3:What Greg used a lot in his message was the word Ruach, which is the Hebrew word for spirit breath, and it's the breath of God that he breathes in in creation and makes man, and he breathes here and, of course, he breathes out by his Holy Spirit in Pentecost and fills us with that breath of God. Well, man, that fills us in such a way that it does give us a different perspective.
Speaker 2:I would agree. I've been stuck for a couple of years now with starting my prayers with just acknowledging that the Lord is on the throne and just visualizing the Lord seated on the throne. So His plans are in place. He has complete power, complete control, and the more I spend in that praise, naming who he is the alpha, the omega, the beginning, the end and just naming his traits, it does change what comes after that.
Speaker 2:You know, when your kids start driving, I was praying all the time because I was anxious and I was praying the blood. My kids are like if you lay hands on my car one more time. But I was anxious and worried and you know what can happen. You know putting your child in a car, and the more I praise the Lord, the more my prayers change from anxiousness to you know, may Ben and Becca always know how much you love them. You know. May they always know your pursuit of them as their father, know your pursuit of them as their father. May they always desire connection with you and that prayer. That's what I want. Yes, I want them to be safe on the drive, but I want them to know the Lord as their king. And so I think I appreciate how God has taught me. You know, yes, he's going to take whatever prayer you give him, he'll never, turn you away.
Speaker 2:But if you desire to pray more in his will, he will reveal how to do that, and I appreciate that's what God has been doing for me lately.
Speaker 1:Now, I think a lot of people get intimidated by prayer. I know for a while in my life I didn't know how to pray or what to pray. And Kate, you use an acronym that I like. Can you share that Pray yeah, Just what they stand for. I think it's really easy to remember.
Speaker 2:Pray, p for praise, r for repent, and a lot of times. That's as far as I get.
Speaker 1:P-R Purr are for repent and a lot of times that's as far as I get.
Speaker 3:I'm on a PR campaign right now.
Speaker 2:Because A is ask, and that's where you ask the Lord. You know, this is what's on my heart, this is what I desire, and Y is yield, and that's where you give up control to Him. But when you do praise the Lord and you repent for falling short, sometimes you're like what else do I need to ask for God's?
Speaker 3:on this throne.
Speaker 2:There's nothing he doesn't know. He has a plan that's in place. I just need to stay in that attitude of worship and praise and yield.
Speaker 3:I've been in this business for a long time. That's really good.
Speaker 2:I did not come up with it.
Speaker 3:That's what's different between you and me.
Speaker 1:I'd have claimed it copyrighted it so pastor greg um talked about breathing life into things that ruha and um what, and he asked the question what in your life feels dead that god may want to breathe into again? Was there something that jumped out at you guys from your personal life like what in your life feels dead that god may want to breathe into again?
Speaker 3:I didn't't have a specific thing, but I also think that's one of the rhythms of life. I suppose that my orientation at looking at life and the unfolding of all the different events and dealing with things that are disappointments or things that even might be discouraging, some things that are just flat evil or wrong, sometimes trying to discern oh well, is that God's will or not? Well, sometimes it's obviously not, but I'm part of it and I may be culpable, I may be the one causing it, but what I see, that what I pursue is not necessarily trying to understand everything about what his will is going to be in all those circumstantial outcomes.
Speaker 3:I look for how his will is to take things of death and turn them to life. How does he redeem that circumstance, redeem that person, or what needs to happen for him to take this whole situation and flip it, Because that's who he is. So it seems to me kind of open-ended. You know what's God doing? I don't know, but I do know this he's a God that breathes life into things and he redeems things that once were dead and he brings them to life.
Speaker 2:I've talked before. I have a family member who I've prayed for for many decades to come to know the Lord and and every now and then I'm like, oh, I think it's getting close, it's going to happen soon, and then and this person attends church actually and I'll stand by this person, and then the person seems uninterested Sign and I'm like, oh, my goodness, why? That's why it's good to end with yield, because I cannot create salvation for anyone, no one. Only the Lord can do that. I can continue to pray and ask God to work, knowing that he hears my prayers and he desires the same, he wants the same. So we're at, we want the same thing.
Speaker 2:But that can feel like it's a dead situation that needs some new life in it, yes, and maybe it's there and I just don't see it. And many times God's wanting us to wait, like, are you able to wait? And I feel like God has said that to me many times. Like, do you want your time frame or do you want mine? And I don't know If it's up to me I'm going to mess it up. So I want the Lord's time frame, but it's all that conversation, like you said with God before. You're like, okay, okay, I think I'm okay now.
Speaker 1:This jumped out at me. There was one thing that really came to mind for me that kind of intersects with something else that's going on in my life. And on Wednesday nights right now I'm leading a connect group that's been meeting and this coming week is our last week, but we've been doing this study. That's Bob Goff. That's called.
Speaker 3:Love and Chaos. I love Bob Goff.
Speaker 1:He's just so goofy and silly and his laugh cracks me up. There's a little video that we watch each week and he always has the goofiest laugh. But it's talking about loving your neighbor and loving your enemies and how you show love wherever you go and whatever you do. And because our culture gets more closed off and we live in this kind of source of chaos right now and how are we showing God's love? And two weeks ago our whole session was about loving your enemy and we had talked about loving your neighbor and sometimes it's hard to love your neighbor and your neighbor is anyone really but then we had the session that talked about loving your enemy and I felt so convicted I used to be really good, I feel like, about praying for the people that I was struggling with.
Speaker 1:I was praying for good things for them, not that I would get along with them or not that they would change their mind about me or whatever it was. I really felt like that was something I wholeheartedly wanted good things for them. And I don't know when that changed and I don't know how that changed over the last few years, but we're going through this study and I'm realizing I can't remember the last time I really prayed for my quote, unquote enemy, you know and that means different things to different people or somebody that I feel like God put in my path to really help me grow by learning something from them and I'm struggling in that growth. That's somebody I think of as my enemy sometimes and I had not been praying for them, and so just over the course of the last two weeks I've really been taking the time to really pray for my enemies and it's just had such a lifting sense in my heart Like I just I've really hope floats, I'm really feel like my heart is floating, and it just when Greg asked that question.
Speaker 1:What in your life feels dead that God may want to breathe into again? That's what I thought of. Like it's not, I feel like it's already being breathed into. You know that things aren't going in the right direction, but that was what stuck out to me. All right, as we wrap up today, what are your final takeaways from this message? What's really sticking with you?
Speaker 2:I have one more scripture Go for it.
Speaker 2:Well, and you know when I just thought it was so fascinating how he sent the servant ahead with the staff and then he came and laid on him and breathed on him and touched his hands, and all that, and I just thought of Isaiah 55, 8. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways, my ways, declares the Lord. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts, and kind of like we were talking before. Roger. You know, god never gives other than coming to him through his Father.
Speaker 2:The Bible isn't full of formulas. Here's how you do this, here's how you do this, here's how you achieve this, here's how you get peace. It's just that process of acknowledging who God is in comparison to us. Just when you think you have it like, oh yeah, I got it figured out pretty good, you know, god will just blow your mind with something, and I think that goes well with how he worked in this story, how he caused new life. That goes well with how he worked in this story how he caused new life, life to come again.
Speaker 3:I was just thinking what it would be like to be the boy. I mean, you're dead, You're back alive Now. Of course, I've been studying a lot of near-death experiences because I'm researching it, but then it makes me so quickly go to that place. The reality of what life is face-to-face with him.
Speaker 3:And one characteristic I'm just going to pause with today the anxious Shunammite woman, the myriad of thoughts racing through her skull as she's trying to make sense of life at that time, and sometimes you cry out to God and there's so many thoughts and yet he is a God who is not only all powerful but so loving. He actually knows, hears, understands and cares. It's remarkable. Can you imagine what it's like to meet him face-to-face and he will know all that and he'll have what feels like time for you and you will feel what you've only just had a small glimpse of. But you'll see it face to face then and that's the fullness of his love for you. You'll see it because you'll see Jesus right there and he was the one that showed us just how far God's love will take him.
Speaker 2:Amen I have no words. I'm still imagining.
Speaker 1:So there were two things that really stuck with me and one, kate, you mentioned already. When Greg talked about CPR commit to the resurrection, pursue the spirit of God and run to the future I really thought that's practical. I can remember that. And then I wrote down what he said when life flatlines, don't hold a funeral. Faith holds even when it hurts. And I was like, okay, I like that, that's something that I can hang on to when I'm struggling, that faith holds even when it hurts. It's not a string that's going to break, because it's much stronger than that.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, thank you guys so much for being here today. I appreciate your insights and next week we'll get to discuss. Well, it won't be you, Someone with me?
Speaker 3:will be discussing.
Speaker 1:Pastor Rogers, do you know what year? Can you give us like a little preview of what your message is about?
Speaker 3:The title is what If we Prepared for Heaven as Much as we Prepare for Retirement? The truth is, people don't prepare real well for retirement.
Speaker 2:Let's just pretend we did. Some people do what you do when you get closer.
Speaker 3:Believe me, when you get closer, you go. I wish I would have I should use that, but I've already written it and I'm out of time. I'm trying to cut things now. I don't want to add more.
Speaker 1:What are they going to do?
Speaker 2:fire you, that's right, I own it. Go on, and on, and on and on. Roger, I have no authority.
Speaker 3:That is my fear to go over, because it's so easy, you get excited and you want to keep going.
Speaker 1:You have some great messages. I always get disappointed when I'm like really engrossed in the message and then I'm like, oh it's getting. The band is starting to vamp up behind.
Speaker 3:That means it's ending soon. They're playing me off the stage. They have to start extra earning with me.
Speaker 2:Don't you feel like it's like and I'm sure you do like you're going to be preaching in ways you don't even know, in such a different way, in retirement?
Speaker 3:I don't know. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:Like you, will continue to have messages to deliver to people, whether it's one-on-one.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you know you are going to continue preaching till your last breath, yeah, okay, so here here it would be not everyone's a preacher, but everyone is a witness.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:So sometimes, when you preach, you're just witnessing and you're sharing your story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right.
Speaker 3:But if I'm no longer a full-time pastor, I am definitely a full-time witness. Yes, Whether good or bad hopefully Super good It'll be real and it'll be what the Lord's doing.
Speaker 1:Right, and there's no time limit on that.
Speaker 3:They're not going to cut you off the thing there is just to shut up and listen to other people. Right, right, and there's no time limit on that. They're not going to cut you off, it's just the thing there is to shut up and listen to other people.
Speaker 2:Right, right, and you know that.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you for all your years of service, Pastor.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, my honor.
Speaker 1:You have blessed this church and the kingdom at large. Thank you All right. Well, until next time, let's keep living our faith beyond Sunday.
